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On this episode, we speak with Dr. Linda Onagawa. She discusses menopausal weight gain and its impact on women’s health. She explains that during menopause, hormonal changes cause a shift in body composition, leading to increased adipose tissue and reduced lean mass. This can result in metabolic syndrome, which includes abnormal triglycerides, low HDL cholesterol, abnormal blood sugar, abnormal blood pressure, and increased waist circumference. Dr. Onagawa emphasizes the importance of addressing cardiovascular risk associated with menopausal weight gain. She recommends consulting with a doctor for a full cardiometabolic workup and focusing on protein-rich diets to maintain lean body mass. She also suggests incorporating exercise, managing stress, and seeking emotional support during this life transition. Daily weighing and movement are highlighted as key habits for weight maintenance. Dr. Onagawa concludes by expressing her support for women’s health and the availability of options to live a happier and healthier life.
TRANSCRIPT:
Welcome back to Hot Flashes and Cold Topics, everybody. Today, we are thrilled to have on Dr. Linda Onagawa, and she is board -certified in obesity medicine and internal medicine,
and she is the chief medical officer for noon. And so we’re going to talk to her today about something that we get a lot of questions about on hot flashes and cold topics is menopausal weight gain.
And why does this seem to happen in this time of life? And I am someone that did lose 30 pounds in the past year. And I did use noon for that and that worked for me.
And so we’re just going to talk about why this happens at this time of life and just some things that we could do during this time of life to help. So that’s that’s my first question is why do women tend to gain weight steering menopause?
You know before we even get into this question I want to also thank both of you Bridget and Colleen because you know menopause I think is still regarded as so taboo.
taboo and something that is not cool to discuss, yet it is a natural part of our lives.
It’s something that we all go through as women. And my own personal philosophy is the more we know about the transition,
the more empowered we are as we go through it. it. And it is not for the faint of heart. I know that from my own personal experiences as well.
So I just, I applaud you for having this community as a forum to bring these topics to the forefront that everybody’s thinking about,
but might be afraid to ask. So thank you. – Thank you, thank you so much. We have really learned so much through this community as we go through it. met so many people, but we really had to seek out information.
When we started this podcast, we had to really dig and hunt to find information about this time of life. And we love seeing more people getting into the conversation,
but there’s still a lot of work to be done. So thank you for saying that. We really appreciate it. So, you know, with that, the whole thing,
you know, know, one of our biggest questions, we have a Facebook group and that is something a lot of women, especially when they’re starting, when they’re in Perry and they’re starting to go through this,
they’re like, what is happening to me? Why am I putting on this weight when I’ve done everything I used to do? – Oh yeah, right, they’re eating right, they’re exercising and yet it’s still happening.
So let’s talk about, like, like first what menopause really is and what happens, right? So as you know,
probably menopause is characterized by a reduction in your body’s estrogen levels. Now estrogen as a hormone,
you know, we tend to think about it as the hormone that, of course, is responsible for our reproductive cycles. and it plays a huge role in reproduction. But estrogen does a ton of other things for our bodies.
It improves our fasting insulin levels. It improves the way our body handles blood sugar. It improves the way our liver responds to insulin.
It prevents lipid accumulation in the blood. It reduces oxidative stress. And men have estrogen too, and it does all this good stuff in their bodies.
They just have less of it too. It improves the function of our hearts. It protects our brain from the impact of aging. It inhibits remodeling and reduction of our bone mass.
mass and lots of other things, but those are some of the big ones. So as we age and our estrogen drops, a couple of important things happen that both lead to weight gain.
So the first is that we are predisposed during PERI and menopause to gain more weight. visceral weight.
So what that means is we’re more likely to deposit weight around our midsection. The big deal with that is those visceral fat cells are more likely to function in a metabolically abnormal way.
Like many people don’t realize it, but healthy normal fat tissue in a bodies serves a very important purpose as an endocrine organ. It even makes estrogen, right? It makes lots of vital hormones.
So when we have more fat deposited in the midsection and that fat starts to behave abnormally, we call this adiposopathy.
That’s a mouthful, but it loosely translates to sick fat, and it means… that this fat behaving abnormally worsens inflammation in our bodies,
it worsens oxidative stress, and it drives even more fat accumulation. Okay, so that’s number one. The second thing is we also begin to lose our lean body mass without the protective effects of estrogen.
estrogen. And that includes muscle mass. That includes bony mass. And this means more of our body’s composition is going to shift towards adipose tissue.
Okay, so that’s a problem. Then, of course, we are not sleeping well anymore, right? We’re having nighttime hot flashes and that lack of sleep due to the hot flashes can lead to chronically higher levels of cortisol which fosters more weight gain and the other things that boost cortisol in our lives are kind of the more external stressors of menopause right like we’re juggling parenting teenagers with caring for our aging
parents we’ve got mid -careers -career pressures. There’s just so many things going on. What this all amounts to,
the increased visceral fat, the reduction in lean mass, the excess cortisol can all lead to a condition called metabolic syndrome. Metabolic syndrome typically is associated with progressive abnormal weight gain.
gain, more hunger, and you basically get on a hamster wheel that is very, very difficult to get off. So that’s at the root of why women are gaining weight.
It’s not because you’re weak or you’re doing the wrong things or you don’t have the willpower. It is very, very simple biology. It’s so important for our listeners to hear hear that it’s not their fault because we get constantly asked what’s happening.
My metabolism is not the same. I eat the same. I exercise the same. Can you talk a little bit more about the metabolic syndrome and like, are there certain factors that you can check off?
Do you have three of these five or five of these eight that women should be considering? Absolutely. So. So the classic definition of metabolic syndrome,
it actually differs between different specialty societies. It generally includes things like abnormal triglycerides, so high triglycerides,
low HDL or good cholesterol, abnormal blood sugar, abnormal blood pressure, and a waist circumference that’s over a certain point. I actually have a little…
little bit more of an expanded definition of metabolic syndrome. You know, I look at in women, something called a HOMAIR score, which is a ratio of fasting insulin to the fasting plasma glucose.
And what I find in women is that that HOMAIR score can often become abnormal before anything else does. and have a high blood pressure. So it’s a group of women who have a high blood pressure So it’s a group of women who have a high blood pressure So it’s a group of women who have a high blood pressure early indicator that you are potentially insulin resistant and at a higher risk for the metabolic syndrome.
So it’s a test that I always recommend doing and you know many times I have women come to me as an obesity specialist and they say well I saw my doctor they did a glucose and an A1c and they said I’m fine I don’t have prediabetes and I don’t have diabetes.
But that’s not the whole story, right? We want to be able to pick up who is at risk for these metabolic problems before the horse is out of the barn.
Because like I was just explaining before, when you’re on that roller coaster, that cascade of biological effects that are happening,
it is so difficult. difficult to get off the train. It can be done, but it’s definitely harder than working from a more preventive approach. And you know,
one of the things that I also think is so important too is women in their 30s, right? Women maybe in their early 40s who are not quite in the perimenopause yet.
When I hear that there’s a family history of weight gain, when I hear there’s a family history of weight gain, I hear there’s a family history of hypertension, diabetes, other metabolic disease, if a woman has had gestational diabetes or she’s been diagnosed previously with polycystic ovarian syndrome,
all my alarm bells are going off because I know this woman, when she enters PERI, she is gonna become high risk and that risk is only gonna increase throughout the rest of her life.
So how, how do you do this testing? How do you check to see, is it blood work? How do they do that? Very simple blood test. So you go to the lab, you have a fasting insulin drawn at the same time as a fasting glucose.
And then doctors can plug that into the HOMA IR equation. It’s not calculated abnormally, or you can, you can do it yourself actually through this. the blood code website or others that are available to anybody you can plug in your numbers and there are differing definitions of who meets the criteria for insulin resistance but my general rule of thumb that I have felt to be pretty accurate phenotypically with what women
are telling me my patients tell me is that if your score is less than one, you’re probably pretty insulin sensitive and you’re not yet impacted by the metabolic syndrome,
which is good news. If you’re between one and two, you’ve probably got some early insulin resistance going on. If you’re over two, definitely 100%,
that is what you are dealing with. – Wow, so what do you do about that? – All right. where you can ask something else Colleen? No, no, no, I was I was gonna say that’s it’s you know That’s so important for our listeners to know because I had never heard of that testing before We’re always talking about being proactive with our health health So for women who might notice that either they get this test or they’re
starting to notice a change in their body What do you suggest is kind of the first steps in this journey? journey of saying, okay, I might be predisposed to this. What should I start doing?
Yeah. So first things first, talk to your doctor and have a full cardiometabolic work. Because yes,
insulin resistance and the metabolic syndrome are associated with unwanted weight gain and menopause. But even more importantly, that’s what we’re going to talk about today. associated with dramatically increased cardiovascular risk.
So things like heart attack, stroke, early dementia, right? These are all the big scary diseases that we as women tend to think of as guys’ problems,
right? But they actually apply to us. So, you know, I tell women, you know, are you having a heart attack? issues with your memory? Let’s make sure there’s nothing else that’s amiss,
right? Let’s check your B12 level, your thyroid, all this other stuff, make sure that nothing is causing a memory concern. If there’s cardiovascular disease in the family, let’s start with a screening ECG test,
an EKG test, right? Let’s make sure everything looks good with your heart. Let’s have you start walking and see how your body responds. Do you get it? any symptoms like chest pain or shortness of breath or even abnormal fatigue?
Let’s get an echocardiogram. Let’s look into this a little bit more deeply. So that’s number one is I always want to make sure that we dot the eyes and cross the T’s with respect to cardiovascular disease.
So if a woman does find out that she’s insulin resistant and is gaining weight, abnormally, there’s lots of things that we can do medically. There’s lots of things that we can do nutritionally and from a lifestyle perspective.
So movement, I hate the word exercise, sorry, but like it’s kind of a turn off, right? Like when you hear exercise, it sounds like, gosh, that’s so worse than like,
you know, I think about being in a gym. gym like stuffed into some like spandex thing with people looking at me like yuck so daily movement of some kind of anything that you enjoy is so so so important because it increases insulin sensitivity at the level of the muscle it preserves muscle and bone mass which comprises our body’s lean body mass and it reduces cortisol levels right?
So all of those stressors that we deal with in menopause, movement can actually be a fantastic way to counteract that.
Movement is truly medicine and it could be yoga, it could be Pilates, it can be simple walking, it can be playing with a pet, it could be the gym, you know, like if you really love the gym,
like no, you know, no, not on that for me. I mean, not a gym rat. So like, it just doesn’t appeal, but some people absolutely love the gym and the physical challenge. So anything like that is very,
very important. Nutritionally speaking, focusing on protein as a core part of the diet is very,
very, very important because the protein will help keep your lean body mass. It fuels your body mass. muscle and muscle is our engine that burns extra calories for us.
I like to keep carbohydrates mostly in the form of things that are green and high fiber. Yes, spinach is a carbohydrate for sure.
But complex carbs, lots of fiber, because that also feeds the gut bacteria that we’re learning. more and more, also play an important role in weight regulation,
but also our mood. The gut actually is rich in serotonin as it turns out, right? So nurturing our gut bacteria in that way and then choosing healthy fats because fat and protein don’t spike in insulin levels.
(upbeat music) way that carbs and sugar do. And healthy fats, we need them. They keep our brain healthy, right? They’re the things that kind of like encase and coat and nourish all of the nervous tissue in our body and our brain.
So we need fat. Fat should not be demonized, but choosing those healthy fats as much as possible. If you’re, you know, somebody who eats animal protein of course like salmon is kind of the classic fatty fish that can be very,
very healthy if you’re vegan nuts and seeds flax and chia avocado are so wonderful as as rich sources of healthy fat so your nutrition can do a lot.
Your day to day can do a lot. If you’re chronically stressed. I have a very low threshold to get people into counseling that is supportive of this life transition.
It doesn’t mean you’re crazy if you need to lean on somebody. And I like to choose and partner with therapists who are particularly knowledgeable of and sympathetic to women who are going through this change of life.
– That was gonna be one of my questions, the emotional aspect of this, because that is such a tough thing for women. And in this age, the whole media and everything makes you think that you need to look a certain way and that you need to be the certain size.
And it’s been that way for women since we were born for so long. And that is a really big thing. And comments. Comments from other people can really stress you emotionally.
So when you said finding a therapist that really understands and goes through that, and that is one thing I found was just when I did,
when I followed this program, because I’ve tried different programs and they work for a while, and then I gained a whiteback. So now I’ve been, you know, without, it’s like,
it’s been about a year. So I’m like, okay, this is really great. And I do find that just the readings and emotional support, can you talk about the importance more of emotional support in your weight loss journey if that’s something that you’re going through?
– Oh, absolutely. And, you know, one of the things I also just want to hit on to that you had mentioned, Bridget, that I think we cannot overemphasize enough. that this is not about a matter of appearances or trying to get to a size zero or looking a certain way.
I truly believe that we can be physically healthy at a wide variety of shapes and sizes. And it’s not necessary to overemphasize.
to be super skinny, to enjoy great health through menopause and also to age in a healthy way. So that is abundantly clear.
And the BMI, like I absolutely despise it, it was never even meant to be used for clinical purposes. It was strictly for research purposes. So, I always encourage women to take it with a grain of salt.
There are things that are far more important. So, yeah, so in terms of emotional support, I think the role of community is critical.
Tapping into resources that normalize what you are going through can be a game changer, you know, whether it’s good friends who are all going through the same thing.
thing, whether it’s, you know, women in your family, like, you know, I mean, if it’s your mom or your and or an elder sister who has successfully navigated the the transition.
These folks can be tremendous sources of support. Again, I think the role of therapy can be so critical because like, you know,
gosh, one of the immediate things. that I noticed personally, and let me know if this is like TMI, but when I started going through this transition,
what I found so mind boggling is that, like, we’re still expected to show up for work every day and put on that brave face, even if we only slept for 30 minutes the night before,
and you’re just like in a pool of sweat when you’re on Zoom. like, there’s really no like acceptable outlet in the workplace for acknowledging what you’re going through.
And you can feel just like so invalidated by all of that. And so that’s where I think therapy can be so tremendously helpful.
And also the support of other women and like even this podcast, right? I mean, this is is normalizing the experience of menopause that we are all going to go through.
And then, you know, the other thing too that I like to reiterate to women that I work with is that even when you’re in your darkest hour and you’re struggling the most,
the symptoms of menopause will increase. ebb and flow. And eventually, they do get better with time. And sometimes just knowing that you’re not going to have to live like this forever and ever and ever is reassuring.
And I can breathe through it. I’m also a huge fan of mindfulness meditation. I have a daily meditation practice.
practice. I think if it’s something that you haven’t explored, I strongly encourage you to explore it because you can kind of learn to breathe through a hot flash.
Like while that’s happening, you can feel that rising sensation of heat and explore how it evolves through the body to the point that it just dissipates.
So we can learn. learn to let it go a little bit and it does make a difference. One of the things because I walked this journey next to Bridget as she was doing her new programming so I heard a lot of it and one of the things that she talked about a lot and I thought it would be good to explore is caloric density and healthy food.
Bridget talked a lot about how she was trying to avoid caloric calorically dense food. How do you do that and still keep like what is considered healthy versus calorically dense?
Yeah, this is a great question. So one of the things that we’re actually doing right now at Noom is we’re updating and revising quite a bit of this curriculum because it’s been extremely important to me.
So you’re absolutely right. Nuts, avocado, avocado, even many lean proteins are also calorically dense. So we’ve actually been shifting and working on revising that color system so that women in the perimenopause and menopause can include more healthy proteins,
more sources of fat, which are rich in vitamins and minerals and other nutrients, while still not breaking the bank on caloric density.
So that is all undergoing right now in progress. So if you’re a current new user, you are going to start to see some very, very big changes in the coming weeks and months. And I’m very excited about it.
Oh, that is exciting. I know it was so helpful from you. because I was just trying to do what I did or pieced together things I’d done in the past and figure out,
always thought, okay, well, that’s not red meat, so I’ll have this. And then I’m reading up and I’m finding out, oh, okay, so the caloric density of that, but it did help tremendously.
And for me, this worked for me, I just felt. like less pressure. And I felt like I could do this. And if I needed help, I could go on the app and you could share.
I found it really helpful for me. I have a sister that did it. It worked for her. That’s what I had, you know, my sister that’s just like two years older than me did it. And I thought, Oh,
my gosh, look at her. And it’s working. And she, you know, was walking more and and playing pickleball and doing things like that. Then I tried it, then my husband tried it. Now my mother lost it.
Word of mouth. It has, it was word of mouth, just watching and seeing. And, you know, that is, you know, different things. We just want our listeners to have choices.
And we want them to just see what works because that is a big question that we just get. in our group, especially when it’s happening to women for the first time, you can almost feel it from reading through the Facebook group page how frustrated they are.
And I know a lot of them want a quick fix. But I’ve learned with age, there’s not really a quick fix to anything. And it is kind of just like this micro changes in your lifestyle.
But I just found that this was very, this wasn’t that hard. And a lot of times things seem very hard. But I just found following this just wasn’t hard.
Do you have any suggestions for women to just maybe not be so hard on themselves and that it really don’t expect a miracle overnight? Any suggestions in that area?
Yeah, I mean, that’s like a million dollar question. And I think, you know, our expectations of ourselves and what we like,
should do and should achieve is something that I encounter with women all the time, you know, we’re expected to be perfect,
we’re expected to get that gold star at the end of the day. But what’s so important is to really understand that everyone’s journey is quite different,
even if you’re using medications. And that’s a whole other, of course, discussion topic is the new highly effective anti -obesity medicines that everybody’s talking about. So even if you’re using medications,
everyone’s journey is different. Everyone’s path. is unique. And everyone’s body is going to respond very, very differently. And you know,
one of the most common questions that I get is why am I losing so slowly? Or the variation on that, why did I just lose 10 pounds and now gaining it back,
right? So the first and most important thing to understand is that that weight gain and your body fighting against weight loss is completely natural.
We are animals, we are human animals, and we evolved to do three things very well, which is to sleep, to reproduce,
and to conserve our fat stores. stores, you know? It’s like, I tell people like back in the cave woman days, we couldn’t just go to the Starbucks drive -thru or Wendy’s or whatever it is to get our nutrients.
You know, we had to climb trees and we had to pick berries and we had to hunt antelopes and, you know, all this other stuff. So our bodies got really good at conserving our fat stores.
stores. So in response to us making healthier changes, guess what? A process called metabolic adaptation is going to kick in and it is going to fight you every single step of the way.
There’s nothing wrong with you. You’re not doing anything wrong. This is natural. This is your body. So having said that, you know, important things to keep in mind,
of course. course, is that, like, let’s say somebody’s taking a weight loss medication, it’s critical to know, like you just said, it’s not a quick fix. It’s not going to drive weight loss alone.
And it’s not going to prevent weight gain alone, right? There’s a phenomenon in medicine called tachyphylaxis. And essentially, what that means is your body finding a way around whatever medicine you’re taking to make the effect of the medicine.
less powerful. Very nice, right? So having said that too, of course, in the noon program, you know, we always tell people,
check in with your mood, your stress, your sleep. Are you tracking what’s your nutrition been like? Are you traveling? What have your social interactions been like?
All of these things are very, very, very important. And you know, besides that too, like I mentioned before, I always tell women who are struggling or feel like they’re having a very hard time,
check in with your clinician. Is there something medical going on that we need to uncover that could be making this fight extra difficult? And if so,
we can help. I’m curious about your thoughts on the recent research. on intermittent fasting and cardiac issues. Are you familiar with that and what are your thoughts on it?
Yeah, fascinating question. So overall, one big thing to keep in mind when you look at this nutritional research,
apologies. Most of it is performed based on a technique called food frequency questionnaires. So it’s asking people to fill out questionnaires,
what they ate on different days, going back, like looking back weeks, months, sometimes even years. So a lot of this research is fundamentally kind of flawed,
you know, because it’s hard to read. remember. I don’t know about you. I don’t even know what I ate yesterday anymore, right? I mean, like, I couldn’t tell you, like, how many hours did I eat or not eat two weeks ago on a Wednesday?
I have no idea. I mean, I can tell you maybe some general patterns, but other than I, than that, I don’t really know. When it comes to metabolic health,
and it insulin resistance, lots and lots of data exist that will say the opposite, right? That intermittent fasting actually helps improve insulin resistance and improve metabolic health,
which in and itself helps reduce your risk of cardiovascular problems. So I think these two different bodies of research are really kind of in direct conflict with each other.
And I think more work is really needed to dig through why. I mean, physiologically speaking, I don’t know why intermittent fasting would lead you to have more cardiac events.
Like it doesn’t intuitively make sense to me. But that being said, I’m excited to see what other research we’re able to do on this topic. I’ll see you in a second. you know get some more clarity for folks because I do find that many of my menopausal women just love intermittent fasting because it’s not like you need to buy anything special.
It’s not like you really need to do all that much different you’re just kind of shortening your your eating window a little bit. And given that we know menopausal women get more insulin resistant any way to fight against that can be super.
super helpful. Yeah, that was a good question. Yeah, that just came out like the last week, those articles. Yeah, there’s one more thing I want to talk about.
And for me, it was so funny when I started this program, I was so bad about weighing, I hate it to weigh, that I would go to the doctor and step on the scales backwards. And I would tell them,
don’t tell me, write it down for your records. But you know, don’t tell me what away. And that was the first thing for me was like, Oh, you’ve got to weigh every day. My sister would tell me they want you to it’s not like a rule.
Nobody’s going to come in and arrest you if you don’t weigh it every day. But but she’s like, Oh, you weigh and I was like, Oh, you weigh every day. And I was like, I’ve just got I’ve just got to do this.
And so it’s funny. Now, I am so good about okay, I’m just gonna wait every day. And I think it was great in the talks and the little readings that you do,
where it said, so you might gain weight one day, you might gain a pound one day. And they were like the oh well part. Well, oh well. And then you know, I really, I never thought that I would find that helpful,
but it has been so helpful. Is there a reason, I think for me, it was just, psychological and keeps it on track. But what do you find by weighing every day?
– And how can you not get obsessed? Because I know a lot of people get upset. Oh, I gained seven ounces and what am I gonna do? – Yeah. Well, a few things I’ll say about the daily weighing because I totally get that.
I mean, I think a lot of us have very negative associations with the scale. All the scale has felt like it really hasn’t been. a friend, it hasn’t been kind to us,
you know, I think for many of us that scale just symbolizes the judgment that we face, the judgment that we face over our appearance,
our competence, you know, as women, and it’s, it’s a tough thing. It really, really is. So I’ll say a few things. You know,
Noom’s recommendation to weigh in regularly comes from very well established data through the National Weight Control Registry,
sorry, which is an enormous database of individuals in the United States who have successfully kept off significant amounts of weight for like,
I believe it’s like a 10. year period. And so their habits were all queried and this makes up this large body of data that we go by.
And daily weighing is top on the list of the people who have maintained a 30 pound or greater weight loss. Same with daily movement,
top of the list, right? right? Some type of eating modification also is high on the list. Not exactly like only eating X amount of calories a day or following a Mediterranean diet or a keto diet or whatever,
no, it doesn’t get that granular, but some type of eating modification. So that’s where that comes from. And Noom, I think as being a science -based company has always followed the science.
science. And it’s kind of like you said, Bridget, I think the aim in the daily way is to take all that emotional baggage associated with that scale out of the equation.
You gain a pound, okay, big deal. You lose a pound, big deal. How are you feeling? How are you feeling overall about your journey? Now, that being said,
I have had many patients who for whatever reason they just cannot, like they cannot get past it. That’s fine. There’s other ways that they can engage through the new Mac.
They can track activity. They can track lessons, you know, such as the menopause curriculum module or whatever it is they wish to do, you know,
they can track other activities like meditation or yoga. So So you’re not forced to, but it is encouraged based on all the available data that we have.
It helps some people to be very successful. Other people may not need it if they’re tracking other things. I think for me, it’s not even so much the weighing, but it’s tracking yourself and observing yourself,
which is something that we don’t do in the course of the year. of our daily lives, but is a fundamental tenant to helping us change our behavior over the long term.
With women of our demographic and their bodies are changing, it’s just one of a myriad of things that are happening. Like you said, sandwich generation, all these other changes.
Are there certain things? that are top of your list that we should try to either avoid eating or perhaps avoid doing or lessen the frequency of to help with this metabolic syndrome?
Yeah. Great question, Colleen. I love it when people can minimize their intake of processed sugars and carbohydrates as much as possible.
possible. It just does nothing for our bodies at all, and it’s very common sense, right? I mean, you know, these highly processed foods not only fill us up with empty sugar and calories,
they are powerful triggers of the craving and reward center in our brain and lead us to crave even more, and they can foster that.
that hamster wheel cycle of weight gain that bolsters up the visceral fat tissue, which puts our health tremendously at risk.
The other thing that I talk about sometimes, and this is gonna maybe be a little unpopular, but it’s nice if you can also minimize your alcohol. I think,
you know, to cope with the stress, it is not unusual to see women like having that glass of wine every night with dinner, or maybe two glasses,
or maybe three over time, especially to try to combat the sleep issues, you know, like many people think, okay, I just need to relax, I need to get rid of the pressures of the day,
and I need to get sleepy for gosh sakes, you know, like please. please help me. So I think, you know, a lot of us turn to alcohol to help with that.
Again, it can be a source of empty sugars and carbohydrates. It can also disinhibit our brains from choosing things that will help us feel better overall,
you know, be it a lot of people. walk in the park or, you know, eating a protein rich meal that gives us energy for the day or,
you know, something else like that. So I think like minimizing to social occasions can be very, very helpful for some women. And of course, no alcohol right before bedtime.
You know, the other thing to look into to sleep speaking of sleep. sleep is that besides just the hot flashes and the anxiety which can disrupt our sleep,
another little known fact is that in the menopause, many more women are at risk for sleep apnea and don’t know it. And this is something that can really creep up on you and interfere with the quality of your sleep.
So So I tell women to consider a sleep study all the time. Ask your doctor for a sleep study, make sure there’s nothing going on like sleep apnea or restless legs or another sleep cycle disorder because listen,
anything we can do to improve our sleep, we should diagnose it and we should treat it. – Oh, and I never realized how important that was until this time of life.
It’s like, how important that was until this time of life. important sleep is, it is amazing. – It affects everything. – It does, everything, you know, your processing brain,
everything, weight, everything, how you’ve lived through your day. I am just thrilled, thank you so much for being on the show today. And I just, I love the options that are offered.
I love that we have this research out there that gives women so much love and support. answers and some help because this is a big struggle and not only because of how you look but your overall health.
We want to have healthier, longer lives and keep talking to people like you really is just another thing that women can listen to and have options out there to help them live a happier,
healthier, longer life. So thank you so much for coming on today. I’m really thrilled. to talk to you and I’m thrilled with how this has worked out for me and my husband and my sister and then my mother -in -law and everybody else in in my life.
So thank you so much for being on today. It has been my absolute pleasure and thank you so much for having me. Thank you.