Kelly Bishop: Episode Link

The Third Gilmore Girl: Book

TRANSCRIPT:

Colleen: Welcome back to Hot Flashes and Cool Topics podcast. I have been so excited for

this conversation with actress Kelly Bishop. Welcome to the show.

Kelly Bishop: Thank you so much.

It’s nice to be here.

Colleen: Oh, well, we appreciate your time. I thoroughly enjoyed your

new book, The Third Gilmore Girl, and as a Gilmore fan, it’s just an absolute

pleasure to meet you and have this conversation. I learned a lot about you from

this book. You were very honest and it was really a wonderful read.

Why did you decide to write this book now?

Kelly Bishop: Well, it had been suggested to me

through the years and I kept avoiding it and just letting it go.

And then a media company came to me with my agent and they we had a nice meeting

they pitched the idea of doing a book again and but they because they know what

they’re doing I mean they said we can help you find a publisher we can help you

find a co -writer if you’d like one I said I would and so they were able to talk

me down the whole thing and I thought well you know what they’re making it so

pleasant. I found a woman I just really enjoyed talking to my co -writer. She was on

the coast, she was in California, so I didn’t meet her in person at all. And we

had a lot of fun talking on the telephone for a year and a half, and it was a

pleasure. I really enjoyed doing it, yeah.

Colleen:  – Well, it’s a wonderful book,

and we enjoyed reading it. I learned a lot about your early career, and you started

out as a dancer and a well -respected dancer. Can you talk a little bit about how

you were one of the original cast members for a chorus line?

Kelly Bishop: Well, it’s in the book there that the whole idea started as this sort of experimental workshop as to whether all these dancers could get together and perhaps form some sort of a company where we could explore other facets of the business. But Michael Bennett, the legendary Michael Bennett, got wind of it and popped himself right in there. And Michael Bennett had a way of taking over everything. So he got in there,

he taped it. We had a long session overnight, one night, and he taped the whole

thing. and we just kept going and going and pouring our hearts out and it was very

inspiring and amazing. We learned so much about each other and it kind of grew from

there. Michael Bennett created a little workshop and then the workshop turned into

rehearsals and on it went until it became a chorus line.

Bridgett: When I say you’re a

dancer, you study ballet, which is you talk about being very different than studying

different forms. Do you think being a studying ballet helped you with your career in

acting?

Kelly Bishop: Absolutely. I think that besides the discipline ballet in particular takes,

but you know, there’s other forms of dance and it’s not, I’m not dismissing them,

but ballet is just terribly hard, takes a long time to master anything. And so

first of all, you have the discipline, and You have the concentration, but then

after you’ve danced, you have the body language, and body language can say so much

on a stage, and then eventually in front of a camera, but it’s probably more

important on a stage. So you can carry that with you, and I always tell dancers

that, you know, move on. It’s only going to help you. I know of one dancer who

was in a chorus line. She didn’t continue her career as a dancer.

But she ended up, I saw her a year later and she had joined a clinic, the

cosmetic company, and she was working internationally for them.

And I’m going, my God, this was somebody who was so shy, she could hardly speak.

And now she’s a power. So I think you can take that whole show business performance

kind of thing with you and take it into any field you’re in.

Bridgett: – Yeah, I took dance when I was younger, like four to 14 and started with ballet and there is some kind of a, I don’t know, I felt like a control, like you have some kind

of control of things when you’re in ballet. I don’t know, do you get the feeling

from that?

Kelly Bishop:  – Yes, you really have to, because as you know, since you really studied

ballet seriously is a kid. I remember to this day, when I finally mastered the Rond

-de -Jambe all there, and it’s just a very subtle thing, but then nobody else will

understand what this is unless they took ballet. But it was years. I mean, I could

do it, but when I finally got that little circle going on my leg, and I went,

“That’s it. I found it. I found it.” So the whole time you’re studying ballet,

you’re learning something new. And of course, getting so mad at yourself because

you’re not perfecting it and looking in the mirror and trying to get it right. And

of course, it’s intriguing. If you must’ve loved ballet as much as I did, it was

just my world, it was everything to me. So, I’m so glad I had that.

Colleen: – What was it like the 1976 Tonys, you won the Tony, a chorus line.

I think you started it and finished the show. Was that a surreal experience?

Kelly Biship: – It was amazing because the one thing, and I even said it when I accepted my Tony, I had worked at the Schubert Theater several times, and actually most of the work I

did on Broadway was at the Schubert Theater, so it felt like home. And to be in

that space and then when we did the broadcast for the Tony Awards We did the

opening number of a chorus line as the opening and we did the closing number of a

chorus line as the closing and It was just sort of like a great gift to us. And

of course the audience was wildly enthusiastic and I hadn’t even factored in that I

was going to win the Tony So it It was, yeah, it was magical, completely magical.

Bridgett: – I love the story of you and your friend, Priscilla Lopez. Can you share a little

bit about how that went, just the rooting that you all did for each other in that

moment?

Kelly Bishop:  – Well, we were such good friends, and you can imagine in a company with a

very competitive business all the way around show business. And so I think there

were probably more than a couple of people hoping that this would destroy our

friendships and she was nominated and I was nominated and they were kind of watching

to see it happen and it didn’t. I mean I thought she was gonna win the everybody

thought she was gonna win. I would hear things like Priscilla is gonna win but I

voted for you. Things like that which is nice, but so I was just putting my head

together to say I’m going to be the most gracious loser in the world I’m not gonna

take anything away from her. It’s gonna be her night. It’s fabulous. And of course,

that’s not the way it turned out. As it turns out We were both going to the same

therapist, Psychologist and as I talked to him After the whole thing he said the reason you

were able to maintain the friendship is you both gave each other permission to win.

And that’s exactly what we did and we were close to this day. We’re very

very close friends,

Bridgett:  You know, that’s such a good example I just think what a great

example for people and a lot of times I feel like people especially women they pit

women against each other and that story just was such a good example of you’re just

rooting for each other.

Kelly Bishop: Yeah, women do have a problem like that and I mean I

remember from when I was a child in the 50s it was probably worse. We’re very

gullible when it comes to having people make us competitive with each other either

over a fella or something else and instead of just taking our own lives and our

own friendships and not worrying about what other people say. But I think it’s

because women are more sensitive and I think, I really think that’s where it comes

from. And we also have that terrible flaw of wanting to be nice.

Colleen: – Yeah, that’s so true.

Bridgett: – That’s a problem. – That’s so true. – Yeah.

Colleen:  – So you left a Chorus Line and you were one of the first people to leave a chorus line. Can you talk about the difference between your desire to dance and your desire to act? ‘Cause it always

seemed like acting was really where your direction was.

Kelly Bishop: – I think because I think any dancer understands, I don’t think it was explained to us, but I think we understand, dancers’ careers are very short careers. Any athletes is to really do your best work, Whatever sport or game you’re playing you’re gonna it’s gonna start to wane when you hit your mid -30s You just not gonna be able to do it as well

And you can dance beautifully on until your 50s or 60s But you aren’t gonna dance

as well or as beautifully as a 20 year old So I wanted to make the transition.

I did think I could act I had done those little five -line parts that in musicals

where they pull somebody out of the chorus and they get to have this little moment

of being an actor and it worked for me and I was good at it so I thought okay

I’m gonna really pursue this I’m giving myself two years up or out I either move

up in the business to where I want to go or I’m gonna have to move away from it

and find some other thing to do. Fortunately it worked for me. And that was really

all about besides loving acting, it was about having a career to be able to

continue to work, because you’re always going to need a grandmother, or not always.

And now it’s been over 60 years that I’ve been in this business, which is just

amazing to me. I pat myself on the head. I can’t believe I did it.

Bridgett: Yeah, you know, it’s amazing too. I think your mother had said to you about do you want to be a star or do you want to, was it loving act, you know it better than me

because you.

Kelly BishopL Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. She actually didn’t say it. I don’t think we even discussed it. It was more

my observations and I remember that that the time I was referring to in the book,

Marilyn Monroe was a huge star, huge and very appealing for everyone,

but I always got the feeling they were laughing at her. And I thought, she’s not

dumb, she’s, this is an act, she’s putting this on and she’s got you all fooled,

but they were so disrespectful of her. And I remember defining that in my own head

is I’d rather be an actor, everyone respects the star that people laugh at.

And that was the first time, but I’ve seen it happen since, and then later on in

my career, I worked behind stars. And I saw this terrible tension and worry,

and, of course, nowadays it’s even worse. There are bodyguards and all sorts of

things and I go, “No, no, no, no, no, I want a life too. I want a private life

and I want my professional life.” So I really avoided that whole idea and I’m glad

I did.

Colleen:  – And it’s also helpful to become popular and word famous when social media

was not around, which was very helpful because now it just seems like people know

everything you’re doing.

Kelly Bishop:  – Well, I remember my husband who was in broadcasting and a

very, very intelligent man got a lot. And he would refer to certain people,

and I won’t mention their names ’cause it would be unpleasant, but he would say

they’re famous for being famous.

And you know who I’m talking about.

Bridgett & Colleen:- Yes. (both laughing)

Colleen: Actually, I think we do.

Bridgett:- I think we do, yeah, yeah.

Colleen:  – A lot of influencers are now all in that way where

you’re not exactly sure what they’re doing, but they’re well known. –

Kelly Bishop:  Right. – Yes, they are. – It’s very strange.

Colleen:  – I wanted to continue talking about your acting

career and of course we have to touch on Dirty Dancing, which my favorite part of

the story is when, I obviously want you to share how you got the role, but that

the producer was running up alongside you saying, well, we’re not gonna increase your

salary. You’re still gonna get paid that same amount. Can you talk about how your

role changed in dirty dancing from what it initially was?

Kelly Bishop: – Well, I think I had

originally been hired because I had the dance background. And you look at the story

of Dirty Dancing and Johnny is the dance teacher at the resort. And the character I

was hired to play was a woman named Vivian. She’s in the movie still,

but She’s a married woman, her husband’s not there yet, and she has designs on

Johnny. And so I thought, well, I guess that’s probably why they hired me, and then

they called me to the location in Virginia for a two -week rehearsal,

which seemed very bizarre. You don’t rehearse things in movies usually. And I

thought, well, maybe we take a dance class together or something, so they want me

to rehearse that. And then I get there and they’re all staring at me. I mean, they

had me come down to set and they’re all just talking among themselves and looking

at me and then having first Jerry or a box stand next to me and then Jennifer

Gray and I can’t figure out what’s going on. And then when they all had made up

their mind, that’s when they said to me, we’ve released the woman who was playing

Baby’s mother this morning or today, whatever. And we were wondering if you would be

willing to take that role. And I couldn’t wrap my head around it because I didn’t

pay much attention to that role. And she wasn’t very exciting. But the kicker was

that they said, “If you do take it, you will start today and you will work on

this film until the very end.” And that had never happened to me. It rarely

happens. You usually go in, you do a couple of scenes, you come back three weeks

later to another scene, and I wanted to have the experience of working on a film

and getting to really know everyone, including the crew. So that’s what that was the

intriguing thing. And then as they were going to take me up to the costume trailer

and try to figure out some clothes for me, because that’s not what they had

provided before. That’s when the producer came running alongside and said there’s the

pay is exactly the same.

Bridgett:  I love that it’s so interesting too because the way Dirty

Dancing came about things in your life it seems like you wished for something or

you would really want something to happen and then it would happen can you talk

about different incidents when things like that occurred throughout your career it is

odd and I don’t know,

Kelly Bishop: I mean, I feel very grateful and frankly,

I feel very lucky. I don’t know how, I don’t think I was just wishing for things

arbitrarily that didn’t happen. I was probably wishing in a sort of a realistic way.

But even the one note I made in the book, there was a production of West Side

Story, a dinner theater production, and I had and auditioning to play Anita,

which is a great part. And then I decided not to follow through with that because

my husband was going out of town and the marriage was faltering and I thought I’ve

got to go with him and this is going to fall apart. So I went with him and came

back and thought, okay, it’s falling apart anyway, you know? So,

I was sitting there literally in the apartment saying, “I wonder what happened

with that West Side Story company? Oh man, that would have been great to do.” And

in my memory, the phone rang immediately, it probably was a couple of days, but the

phone did ring and it was the producer of that production and said, “The woman who

was playing Anita was leaving and did I want the role?” And there it was, another

wish and I said yes. And then I thought he was going to have me coming on

audition and all he wanted to do is then discuss salary.

Colleen:  Can we go to talking about the Gilmore Girls because honestly one of my favorite shows, I just thought the writing was incredible. The acting for all of you was just everything fell into place. But you, there were hundreds of women who were auditioning for this role.

Did you realize you got it when you tried or you were like, hmm, that’s not going

to happen?

Colleen: Well, I realized that I did a really good audition. I worked very hard

on that audition. And I went in as Emily. I mean, I knew who she was.

I knew what she was thinking. I knew that I really knew the lines to always carry

the pages anyway, so did you, don’t give any indication that this is the finished

performance, but this is the idea of what I’m going to do. And I thought it was

wonderful, but I didn’t hear, and I didn’t hear, and my agent is, you know,

they’re calling him and saying they haven’t made up their minds yet, but it turns

out they were really focusing on, understandably, on the two leading characters.

And so they want to make sure they have that set before they moved on to the

other characters. But of course, I didn’t know that. And I started getting pretty

discouraged. And then one day the phone rang and it was, “Yeah, you got it.” And I

was so thrilled.

Colleen:  I agree with you, but the writing was just amazing.

It was fast. It was funny. It is so clever.

Kelly Bishop: The characters were so well drawn and

I think the show was beautifully cast. I just, I couldn’t have, I wouldn’t have

changed any of the actors that they ended up hiring.

And that’s Amy Sherman -Paladino. She knows what she wants and when she wants it,

that’s what she’s going to get. And she won’t take no for an answer. So there we

are all these years later.

Bridgett:  And she really for you or she knew she you said she

knew when you walked in that you were the Emily that’s that

Kelly Bishop: she says that she knew it that and I’m sure they were trying to get a lot of other actresses in there because it was such a good role especially for an older actress I was in my, my mid-fifties when we started that show um but that’s that’s the way she is she

knows what she wants. And she’s very, very bright. She’s really kind of genius

level as far as I’m concerned. And she was just gonna, she was gonna have it her

way or no way at all. And she, she always does get her way because she’s, she’s

smart.

Colleen: Yeah. After a few episodes of taping, did you realize that this was going to

be a hit or did you have any idea have any of the show.

Kelly Bishop: No, we really didn’t.

I mean, I thought it was one of the best productions of anything I’d ever done.

I was just so happy to be doing it. But it was on the WB Network, which was kind

of limited. I mean, the only other shows on that network were, you know, teenage

shows kind of. So if you weren’t, I mean, why would you just tune in to watch

this show. And plus, I think there was a lot of resistance from men because it

said Gilmore Girls, you know, so there wasn’t too much interest there. And I felt

that Warner Brothers did not promote us at all. They just kind of left us there. I

don’t think they quite understood what they had. I think they thought they just had

another teenage show. And I was hoping that it would last. I  recall the

conversation we had that I had completely forgotten, where I said one day the show

is gonna, people are gonna rediscover this show and it’s gonna be a huge hit. Well,

I don’t remember saying that, but apparently I was terribly clever.

And it is, and I just love that it’s lasted like this. It’s incredible.

It’s like a kind of magical. And I mean, It’s the fact that it’s still around and

so popular and new audiences coming in all the time. I just find that amazing.

So I’m thrilled to be part of it.

Bridgett: With Netflix and this whole new generation that

is part of it, it is amazing that it has such lasting power.

And it isn’t all like, what I liked about Gilmore Girls, Even though it was a hit,

it wasn’t a story about all but, you know, like rainbows and butterflies or

whatever, you know, there was, there was tension. There was the addressing a teenage

pregnancy. There were things like that in there. And I don’t know. I think that was

very, like you said, she just is an incredible writer and creator. But then she and

her husband decided to leave because of disagreements. And so, can you talk a little

bit about how that went in the last season?

Kelly Bishop: Yeah, that last year was pretty tough

for us. You know, she had a writing team. Of course, she was the head writer. And

she had a good team, but she has a unique voice. You can’t — I don’t think

anybody has that voice. And they tried their darndest. And it was okay,

but it just didn’t have the energy. It didn’t have the focus.

And yeah, they just left because they couldn’t come to an agreement on a contract.

And she did tell me that the very last day as she was taking her office to her

car, and it was her last little trip to her car, she got a call from the suits,

the powers that be and said, okay, let’s talk about this. And I can’t tell you

what she said, but it started with an F. And that’s what she said to you and hung

up on them and kept going. So that’s our Amy.

Colleen: That’s a great story. Great story. It’s just, it stands the test of time.

And I think the dynamics of any family always enriches a show because there’s just

so much storyline that can be told between relationships. You have a very close

relationship with Lauren, correct?

Kelly Bishop: Very close. She really is my daughter in my heart,

yes. Oh, wow. And what was it like working with her there? Because I just think

she’s amazing.

Kelly Bishop:  She is amazing. I’m glad you noticed that because I mean, not only

she’s just in her timing is good and her acting is wonderful. She’s another one

who’s very, very smart. And I mean, I’ve done a lot of guest spots on television

but I hadn’t done, I don’t think I’d done a series as a regular at that point.

And I was amazed at how she knew exactly what they were doing or what they should

1. I remember sitting at one point doing a scene and they were doing the master.

So of course, the master is the shot of when

this again because they’re gonna cut at this point they’re gonna cut and they’re

gonna go to that and I’m sitting there going she’s she knows exactly how this whole

scene is going to be structured when we see it on television sitting there as an

actor she she’s just so savvy about the business and again as I said very

intelligent and she’s so sweet I mean she’s not a pushover But boy,

she’s a loyal good loyal friend and I just root for her every time she does

something I just I I want her to get all the attention in the world.

Bridgett:  I’ve actually heard about her from an acting coach That somewhere I was at a talk and this acting

coach just said how wonderful she was just brought her up I think the acting coach

was Melissa Skoff and she brought up Lauren Graham and said, oh what? She is just,

she walks in the room and it’s just like, I don’t know, it’s like a bubbly light

or something like that. I just said that about her.

Kelly Bishop – She’s really special and she’s

a very, very good actress. And I think what’s happened mainly because of Gilmore

Girls is people haven’t gotten a chance to see the depths of her ability because

they wanna see that character again and they wanna see a version of that character.

She’s working on a new series now. She’s been shooting in Toronto. I don’t know

much about it, but I kind of got the feeling and talking to her, and I owe her a

phone call, that it’s a little bit darker. I don’t know if the show itself is,

but her character might be a little bit darker. And I’d love to see her play that

because she’s very, very capable. So, and I don’t even know the name of the show

or I would pitch a tune, I have no idea what it’s like.

Colleen: – We will definitely get in touch with her PR because we would love to have her on when it’s ready then.

Kelly Bishop: – Oh yeah, she’s, I mean, I remember years and years ago she did a Jeopardy,

a celebrity Jeopardy. She, I can’t remember if she absolutely won or not,

but I was blown away again by all of her the of the trivia of the whole thing.

She’s just sharp. She just collects everything and she’s she has had a good

education anyway, but she’s super special. She’s wonderful.

Colleen: I think anybody who can ping pong the script from Gilmore Girls,

it’s so fast paced. I can only imagine trying to memorize those lines, but

Lauren and Alexa, it was like, was it like watching a ping -pong match because for

the for the viewer it was.

Kelly Bishop: Yeah it was. I mean you really had to get those lines

in with Amy and Dan too but Amy was the driving force.  You don’t add lib,

you don’t throw things in, you don’t fiddle around with it, you do it as written.

Now that appeals to me because I worked on stage and I have great respect for

writers and playwrights. I figure spend an awful lot of time on those words,

even if it’s a but or an and or an exclamation point or whatever, they write and

they rewrite and it’s my job to deliver as written. So that’s where working with

Amy was very appealing to me because that’s the way I always worked. And the other

thing is I tended to go kind of fast I was told more than once to slow down a

little bit when I was on stage and now I find myself in Gilmore Girls and nobody

told me to slow down I just went flying through it it was great perfect yeah a

nice change

Bridgett: yeah you know I was wondering how it was when  you were filming that or why  while Gilmore girls was being made you were traveling back and forth and your

husband was just undergoing So many different things how I mean that had to be so

difficult how I don’t know. I don’t know how you had to manage. I really am trying

to how did you manage that?

Kelly Bishop: Well, what I did with it when we start the season

there were You know resident apartments, you know furnished departments were actually

quite near the studio. So I’d go out with all my stuff and I would get settled in

and go to the grocery store and do all of that. But then when it came time to go

back, all I had was my little rolly bag because it was basically what do we carry

with us? Cosmetics. [laughter] Grooming products. No, a whole thing of grooming

products. So it became something that was just really down to a system where,

and also on that property where I was living, they had a car rental place, so I

rent the car to use when I was going down to the studio. I’d come back, I’d give

the car back, I’d call and get a car to take me to the airport, and I just did

it back and forth and back and forth. Well, ultimately, the other thing is with the

frequent flyer miles, I was able to take us both to Europe first class. (laughing)

– That’s so nice. – So it paid off, it paid off.

Bridgett:  – Yeah, it was amazing reading

that because I think a lot of people that aren’t in the acting world think that

actors, all actors, everything is just handed to them on a silver platter. But when

we’re reading in there, like, no, I was paying my own ticket, I was paying my own

rental, I was using my own money to fly back and forth. It’s like,

oh, it’s, you know, and that was a very popular show, Gilmore Girls, you know, and

so I think that was very eye -opening that you included things like that in there.

Kelly: Well, when we first started, the salary was terrible. By television standards, my

salary was awful. And I think it had a lot to do with that I was a New York

actor, I was a theater actor. They’re going, and who is Who’s she? Who’s she? Why?

I have a funny feeling I never asked him because I always avoid discussing salaries

with my fellow actors. It’s not going to make anybody feel good. I think that Ed

Herman was probably making more than I was because he was established to the

Hollywood community. He had done that Franklin Roosevelt. I think it was Franklin

Roosevelt. Even currently at that point, He had a car commercial going that was

running all the time so they knew who he was They know who I was and so they got

me and I with all of that the expense and the bad salary I think it was about

the fourth year that as the salary went up and up and up I finally got to the

fourth year and I said that’s what I should have made the first year That’s what

my salary should have been but having been a theater actor and knowing how to live

on a shoestring, I could put it, put it away.

It was still better than theater pay, not maybe now, but it was then. So I’m just

grateful for it. I mean, I accepted the reality of it. I’m certainly not going to

be bitter or grouchy about the whole thing. That’s what I got. And on we went.

And boy, it’s wonderful. I reap the benefits of it. I’m fine.

Colleen: – Gilmore Girls just gets more and more popular, just seems to be

growing to that cult status of movies or series where people love watching it or

binge watching it.

Kelly Bishop: – Yeah. – With the binge watching, people talk to me about that

all the time, especially during the COVID, the shutdown. That’s when people really

started doing it. But I you know, I’ve been doing a little little mini book tour

and I keep hearing this. I mean about new people Watching it again or going back

and watching it three different people Recently told me that every fall and these

are not people who know each other every fall They sit down and binge watch the

entire show. I don’t know why it’s in the fall. Maybe just it’s cold outside or

something But they just keep coming and some woman said to me the other

day that her, her 15-year-old son is obsessed with it. And I said, good, I want

to see boys watching it too. You know, it’s not just girls. So, uh,

it, it’s, it really fascinates me though, because who would expect this to happen?

And there’s such love still, but it’s such a good show. Watch to see it.

Bridgett: You understand why. Yes. We had a guest, gosh, the first year we started the

podcast, Colleen, Valerie Campbell. She was a key set costume designer on

Gilmore Girls. She made ice cream and she does a TikTok a bunch about different

things about Gilmore Girls. The set and the Gilmore Girls and continuity.

Kelly Bishop: – Was this

Valerie? Are you talking about Valerie?

Bridgett: – Yes, Valerie, yes.

Kelly Bishop:  – Yes. She’s kind of carried the torch for us. Yeah, it’s funny. She got involved in little summer events very early. And so yeah, I know she’s and she’s also very talented with the crafting.

Bridgett: Yes. Yes.

Colleen: So now that that you have written the book and you’re doing the press tour,

what do you what do you think is next for you? Because I love that you tell a

story about how you said if you died on stage, that would be the way that you would

want to go. But do you want to work for the next 20 years or do you want to

kind of slow down your pace?

Kelly Bishop:  – No, I’m not worried about slowing down. Actually,

first of all, there’s not that much work for old actors. So I grab what I can,

but I know I have a little bit of a twisted take on that about dying on cue.

I thought that would just be so cool. I mean, very gory. I don’t know.

I want to work until the day I die. I love working.

It’s harder now, I will admit. I find the same number of hours.

And television or film, you work long hours, unless you have a special director who

always stops at five or something and it is harder and I need more rest and I

just have to pace myself better but I love working, I love acting, I love my

fellow actors, I love meeting new people all the time so I have no interest at all

in stopping unless I said there’s not that much work anyway, I’ve been fortunate

this year, I’ve done a guest spot on the television series.

And then Amy Sherman Palladino’s new show that they’re working on, it takes place in

Paris and New York, I actually ended up doing three episodes of that. So that’s a,

yeah, that’s good, I’m excited.

Bridgett: – It obviously keeps you sharp because you’re very

sharp.

Kelly Bishop: – Oh, thank you. – Yes, yeah.

Colleen:  – And you And the fact that the passion hasn’t

diminished at all, that you truly found what you love to do and it has carried you

through good times and bad times, it’s such a wonderful story to share. And thank

you for sharing that in the book as well. Thank you so much. Oh, and I would be

remiss ’cause they will ask all of us, why don’t we ask you this? Is there any

chance for a Gilmore Girls? Gilmore Girls.

Restart, reboot, another season, another season, a year in the life.

Any possibility is out there,

Kelly Bishop:  I think. What would make the difference is,

first of all, if Amy and Dan wanted to do it, I’m sure that they could find a

studio in financing for it. That wouldn’t be a problem. But And would Lauren want

to do it, and would Alexis want to do it? I, of course, would do it.

And I mentioned a lot of the supporting actors would probably do it.

But it really is a reliance on Lauren and Alexis, because that’s it. I don’t know,

because we’re all kind of moving on, but I’m always good to come back and revisit

this. It’s such, You know, I’m just so proud of the show, I was proud of it when

we were doing it and I’m just amazed at the way it just keeps going and going and

new people discovered and and get as much pleasure and comfort which I do think

it’s a it’s a sweet show weirdly a weird way to put it but there’s a real

sweetness and goodness about this show and I love the people are discovering that

it’s something you can go and watch, not unlike Dirty Dancing, and you can feel

very comfortable. There’s not going to be any violence. There’s not going to be any

blood. You know, you could just pay attention and get another laugh out of it since

you missed the last time. So I, you know, we’ll see. I never say never.

Bridgett: Yeah, we certainly could use it. We could use it right now.

Colleen:  Yes, please. Yeah, we could really use this. We could really is it now? Well,

we’ll have a link to the book in our show notes. And I just Bridgett and I want

to thank you so much for coming on the show. We appreciate your time. And it was

just a wonderful conversation. So thank you so much.

Kelly Bishop: Oh, yes. Well, you both are an

absolute pleasure. I really enjoyed myself. So thanks for having me on. Thank you.