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Colleen: Welcome back, everybody. We are so excited to be talking to Kim Alexis today.

Welcome to the show.

Kim Alexis: Yeah, thanks for having me.

Colleen: Well, first off, congratulations on the podcast,

Unexpired. You have had some amazing guests. And I wanted to start off with saying, how did this

come about?

Kim Alexis: It has been something I’ve been thinking of for years.

And obviously, I’m sure like you. You were, well, I don’t know if you started out being

interviewed, but I was interviewed on everyone else’s podcast. And I’m like, wait a minute, I can

do that. And going back, I was a fashion editor at Good Morning America. So I was on once a week on

live national television. So I had to learn how to conduct interviews. And I just found I have

something to say. And even though I’m 65 years old. I’m starting this new business. And so it has

been a love work in progress. And I could not have done any of it without my husband, who is a very

much behind the scenes. He was a land developer. And I feel like I’m his piece of raw land. And so

he has been very good from start to finish, just every little tiny thing behind the scenes.

So I don’t need to worry and can just be creative.

Bridgett:  Yeah. You know, at this age, we’re all around

the same age. I found that a lot of people that I talk to, especially women,

that hit that 60-year mark, it’s a very happy time. Have you found that to be the same thing,

or have you found that from some of your guests?

Kim Alexis:  Well, for me personally, when I hit 65,

I’m going to be 66 soon, but when I hit 65, it was almost like I could take my foot off the pedal,

and I could cruise if I wanted to. But then I also had that choice,

but I can also do something new and different. It’s just almost that the pressure came off.

And then I was allowed to just do what I wanted. And as we get older, I think we get more of do

what you want, say what you want. And just we have wisdom to understand what’s important,

who we want to spend our time and energy with. There’s so much wisdom that we’ve got that helps

bring us peace, stay away from drama. I don’t know about you, but it’s being away from drama.

Colleen: Oh, yeah. It’s like number one.

Bridgett: Right. You can almost see the drama coming, you know, and you’re

like, thank you. Bye.

Colleen: And it’s interesting.

one of the guests we’ve had on several times, Carla Hall, she says, you know,

 she just turned 61, but this is a time of life where we gain so much wisdom and people

expect us to sit on the couch and not use it. And she just has her one woman show coming out.

I think last night or the night before was her premiere. And  it’s like,

we’re getting so creative. at this time of life, and we have the freedom to do so,

which is such a privilege. And in talking with you about the podcast, what was your intent for it?

Because we always like to say, what’s the intent for this episode? What’s the intent for the

podcast?

Kim Alexis:  Yes, for mine, it’s to inspire that we don’t have to just close up shop,

that we can reinvent ourselves, that we can get back out there, that we can start something totally

new and different. And that life has not ended and that we do have something to contribute and

something to say. And the people I’ve had on are amazing because they may start way over here.

And they were fabulous at it, whether it was an athlete or a chef or a comedian or something.

And just watching, how did you get there? And so that’s what I love is the inspiring stories of

people and the encouragement that they bring others like, oh, well, if they can do it, I can do it.

Bridgett: Right. Like just out there showing people that things are possible. And what we just said,

you don’t have to sit on the couch. If you want to sit on a couch, great. But there’s other

options. I’m really fascinated that you’re an integrated health practitioner. How did that all come

about?

Kim Alexis: So, well, when I was first discovered at 17 back in high school,

I had decided, I thought anyways, that I wanted to be a pharmacist. And so for me,

when I look back now, I see that I was very much into, if you do this or take this pill,

this will happen. And so this cause and effect of this equals this,

or this helps this, or this stops this, or whatever it was. And so as I got into the modeling

business and I was always struggling with my weight and I’m not good enough and I’m not thin enough

and I just wasn’t a natural stick. I was a swimmer. You know, I was fit and athletic and I

was almost punished for that. So I had to figure out healthy ways because if I was unhealthy,

then it would show up in my face and then I wouldn’t work. And so I learned that I needed to really

be into healthy ways of living. All of the lifestyle, all of what I did, supplements and health food

stores. If you look back in the 70s, there weren’t very many health food stores and there

weren’t that awfully many gyms.  We didn’t have those same tools, but I sought them out.

I would drive an hour to go to a health food store to go and find food just because it was

important to me. And so integrative health, as I started growing through my modeling journey,

I would have taken the pharmacy and probably gone more into what I’m doing now,

which is functional medicine. It’s getting to the root cause and what is causing that problem.

I always ask that question, why do I feel this way or what?

I just ate this food and why is it doing this? And so it’s just inside of me.

Bridgett: When you were talking about the health food, I’m like, it was like the hippie cult. You

had to go to a hippie store back in even the early eighties and seventies.

Kim Alexis:  Yeah. You had a certain

smell to it. Yeah. Yeah. Like the health food stores, it wasn’t Whole Foods and it wasn’t like the

sterile grocery store. It was these. dark, you know, wood floors and little shelves and they had

one or two of each thing. And it was like, Ooh, what’s that?

Bridgett:  Yeah. Yeah. I have,

I have a hippie sister.

Kim Alexis: So I think I’ve got some hippie in me somewhere.

Outside of Buffalo, New York. You never know.

Bridgett: Yeah. So she’s going to outlive all of us.

But that is really, and you’ve written books about it as well. Yeah. So like of all these

different, and you’ve continued to do that, like with different books.

Kim Alexis:  Yeah. It just

bumps out of me. That’s just what I love talking about and studying. And my advice to people is if

you don’t know what your passion is, what kind of newsletters do you get? Email wise, you know,

so for me, it’s all nutrition ones and about health and fitness and staying young and active and,

you know, longevity. So those perk my interest. And so that’s what I naturally want to talk about.

Colleen: You know, getting back to when you were discovered at 17, you moved to New York like two days after

your 18th birthday. So very young. And you start to work immediately.

The 80s were such a time of heavy makeup and big hair.

 You know, I’m from Jersey. Didn’t get any bigger hair in the 80s than

Jersey. But you kind of came from, like you said, a swimmer’s background. You were more into whole

food. You were more into health. You weren’t big on makeup. How did you have to acclimate to that

new environment? Were you just learning to become a model, getting into a business you weren’t

familiar with, and now they’re caking on the makeup and putting the hair up. How did you acclimate

to that?

Kim Alexis:  I think that what I learned was I’m not sure of what I’m doing.

The fashion industry was totally new to me. And I just thought of myself as a canvas and the makeup

artists and the hairdressers would express themselves using this, right? That was their territory. And they taught me things. So they would say,

oh, darling, you know, your eyebrows don’t let them pluck them. And oh, do this.

And oh, your hair looks great this way. And you’d get all these opinions. It’s like, you know, they

must know what they’re doing. So as models, our mindset got to be,

I look good this way and this way and this way where maybe if you’re in college,

you’re not focusing on it. And as you get older, some people will have a certain hairstyle, a

certain lipstick color, and that’s it. They’re not going to stray from that. With models,

we’re like, I don’t care. Let’s try something new because we were always given good feedback. And

so I just learned that I was the canvas that people created on and just see what they come up with.

That was how we thought.

Bridgett: You know, I remember seeing and you were talking about how you were a

swimmer, you were athletic and that I’ve seen you on different talk shows and on your podcast

as well, where they tell you the first thing that you have to lose weight. And I mean, I remember

all the ads with you and all the magazine covers. And I’m thinking, oh, my goodness,

she looked so beautiful and just looked really great. I can’t imagine someone telling you you have

to lose weight. And it sounds like every model was told that.

Kim Alexis: Yes. And I was almost a way of

weeding out the ones that just weren’t going to suffer through it or couldn’t stand the business or

couldn’t stand that heat. I lost the weight. So when I went to New York City at five foot ten,

when I was swimming five and a half hours a day, I was 145 pounds. When I went to New York,

I was about 129. And then the first job I had was in Rome for Italian Bazaar.

And we had five-star hotels with free room service.

But I started gaining it back, you know. But you’re in your 20s.

It went off easy. It came on easy. Actually, I was in my teens, so it came off easy.

I couldn’t stay at that weight with my set point.

So each one of us has a set point of where our body is healthier. So you might stray and gain a

couple of pounds, but pretty much naturally you go back to this set point. And so for me,

it was still in that like  140, I had to go back.

So I lost some of the muscle mass because I was my muscles from butterfly.

I mean, I was muscular. So yeah, that ended up going down,

but I just, you know, we stopped. I didn’t have to weigh myself. It wasn’t with like Eileen Ford

where I wouldn’t go on set if they weighed you. There was still this

feeling like when the zipper wouldn’t go up on an outfit and you were like holding your breath and

it’s like, you’re just mortified because you want to be all things to all people.

And that’s very unattainable. So that was tough. And at 18, I had to learn,

I have to be okay with me. I have to realize I’m fine. I couldn’t let that ruin my day.

So you either talk about it or you say, Hey, you know, I can’t be everything to everybody.

Bridgett: So I just I feel that that had to be so hard. I remember seeing you on I think it was the Charles Grodin show and I remember you talking about you were so

hungry.  I think it was you that said you ate a head of lettuce. Is that right?

Kim Alexis: That’s all I had

all day. And so it was like five o’clock. We were in the model’s apartment.

So I’m sitting on the living room floor in the model’s apartment with one head of iceberg lettuce.

And Kelly Emberg walks in the door and she’s like, Kim, she was from Houston. Kim, what are you doing

with a whole head of lettuce? And I’m like, it’s only 50 calories.

Because I’m here, I’m trying to justify. And I’m like, this is not the way to live.

This is not working. So obviously you’ve got to figure things out. And what can you still do to

look good, feel good and maintain your weight?

Colleen:  Right. And it just seems that that dialogue has not

changed for 20 and 30 year old women. I wish it would. I wish they would look because I think for

midlife women, it is changing. We are talking about being stronger. We are talking about keeping

our muscle mass. We are just having the menopause discussion. We are having longevity discussions.

But 20 year old women, especially with social media now, they still look at it like I need to be as

thin as possible, regardless of what my body is going to look like 20 years from now.

Kim Alexis: Right, right. Or what other detriments it could be to other organs. You know,

there’s just something about good health. And what I learned with integrative health is that the

body never lies. So when it’s screaming at you or it’s going and pulling off in one direction,

it’s trying to tell you something. And so what do you have to do, whether it’s detoxing or

supplementing and supporting to get your body back to being healthy?

Bridgett: you know, with the importance with longevity and you talked about the body, the muscle mass,

because that is not only if you are losing weight, but also as you’re aging,

the maintaining muscle mass, because we lose so much muscle mass. I mean, what is your research or

what have you done indicating that area?

Kim Alexis: So weight bearing exercises are good.

Some type of lifting weights, and it doesn’t have to be a lot, but it has to be something that puts

a little bit of weight bearing on your structure, on your bone system. So that’s important for bone

density. And because I guess I grew up swimming from the age of six on,

I feel better when I’m moving and when I’m working out and the research. backs behind that that’s

what we should be doing. So I’m going to keep doing it. And if I go too long without exercising,

I just feel blah. And it’s like, I don’t feel good about myself. I don’t move as well in my body.

And so getting out and doing something pretty much every day is important.

It’s good for my mindset. It’s just good for everything.

Colleen:  And have you found that in speaking with

the guests you’ve had, that that’s a common theme that getting moving and being cognitively healthy

to those seem to be common things that come up in the interviews?

Kim Alexis: My very first interview that I did was with Larry the Cable Guy. It wasn’t the first one that came

out, but he was my first interview and he’s a really good friend. And so I thought,

okay, well, each episode I’m going to end with one thing because I still, even though my show

wasn’t about health, So I thought, I’m just going to ask him.

So I said what’s your favorite meal?

You don’t ask Larry, the cable guy, he goes beans and weenies and describes them.

And he describes how they look when they come out. And I’m like, I am never asking that question

again. I’ve stayed away from the health and fitness because my guests are chosen for,

for more for their career than that. And something I would put in a funny position. I’ve got old ex

-athletes who are now in their 70s. I’ll ask some like what their fitness routine is or do they

still work out? And most of them are like me. It’s like they feel better moving and doing stuff.

But a couple of them have really let themselves go.

It is. Skip right over that topic. It is.

Bridgett: But, you know, it’s  funny.

I think I say this in every episode. I apologize to the listeners. I’m from a really big family. So

I have there’s 12 kids. So I’m number 11. So I’ve watched all these older siblings and I have some

siblings like I was just visiting this weekend and they kind of grew up at a time when maybe they

didn’t emphasize female sports as much. And then my hippie sister comes along,

you know, and she’s got her flower farm and she’s 70 years old. And I mean, she can move and do all

this stuff so fluidly. So for me,  I get that to watch what’s happening with the siblings.

And, you know, I feel like probably it was just around, if you’re about 70 now,

maybe you were, unless you were a big athlete or something, you’re hitting that. You’re watching

the people that did the movement, did the exercise and did the things.

And I use it as a cautionary tale, you know, not even to look a certain way,

but just to move and just to be able to function and just,

just for daily life to be easier.

Colleen: You know, one of the things I really appreciate in

doing some research about you is how open you are to trying new things. And I thought it was funny,

the story of when you went on the interview for Good Morning America, having absolutely no

experience in interviewing people. And they were like, OK, you’ll start tomorrow. And you’re like,

what am I doing tomorrow? Have you always been that way, just open to trying new things?

Kim Alexis: when I was asked to start modeling, once I got past that

I’m going to be a pharmacist thing, then it was like, oh, well. This is new.

And that’s what I’ve found with my guests is that they’re successful because they’re willing to

step out. They’re willing to show up. They’re willing to prepare. And all that really makes a

difference. You can prepare for years by yourself, completely alone. Let’s say you’re a musician or

whatever it is, and you don’t know what’s going to happen. You’re doing it because you love it and

it’s who you are. And then sometimes that gets found and discovered. And then things blossom from

this thing you were doing all by yourself. But what you were doing was preparing and becoming

better at your craft. So that’s what I love. And I find if I have that mindset of I’m showing up

and I can learn on the go, I’m a fast learner. I’m not afraid to ask questions. My ego is not big

enough where I’m never going to not ask directions or questions.

I think I’ve always been that way. Just a learner all the time.

Colleen: Right. And that’s when the best things happen usually is when you’re not going into something with

these great expectations of having to achieve this level and just seeing what happens.

Kim Alexis: And also that there’s so much in life. Life is so wonderful and it’s packed with so many passions.

People can be from rock climbing to collecting bugs to, I mean, there’s just so many things that

are out there. If we have an opportunity to do something that’s out of our

wheelhouse, I’m like let’s learn. I’m just a big proponent of trying to learn all the time new

things.

Colleen: And I think that’s what keeps us young is that open mindset. Like, wow, this world is a

big, huge playing field. And let’s go over here and try this. And then let’s go over here and do

that.

Bridgett: It’s just being a lifelong learner and just,

you know, like just I didn’t know what a podcast was, you know,

really and learning how to even do it, you know, do all the things that we did to start it.

So it really is amazing what you can learn. And then all the great people that you meet when you do

something like that. And I was curious, could you share with our listeners how you’re the whole

thing came about? You know, you were a swimmer and. You went to Rhode Island,

is that right?

Kim Alexis:  I went to Rhode Island to just look at the college.

So in the fall of my senior year, when I was 17, and then signed up and was enrolled in their five

-year pharmacy program. And then I went and met with a swim coach and some of the girls, I think I

even stayed with the girls. And, you know, my parents were there with me, but you’re exploring

these colleges, right? Like, is it a good fit for me? And so that’s where I thought that’s where I

was going to go. I had things all set up, you know, I was very much a planner and I don’t want to

worry about it. And I don’t want it to stay last minute. And I want to get this done. Like, let’s

just sign up now. And had no idea that, I mean, a business I had never studied.

I didn’t know how to pluck my eyebrows. I didn’t know how to put makeup on. I didn’t know how to

blow dry my hair at the time. You know what I mean? You were just. If for me, it was hair in a

ponytail and no makeup. And well, I remember I had cornflower blue eyeshadow back in the 70s.

Bridgett: Oh, I remember. Yeah, I remember those.

Kim Alexis: I probably had mascara, but,

you know, I didn’t know what I was doing and know if it was good or not. And there wasn’t anyone in

my high school that was like, ha ha ha, you look like an idiot. So I did that.

Then I’m like, OK, maybe I need to understand how to put makeup on.

Colleen:  I was going to say you go from swimmer to being on the last episode of

Cheers. How did that come about? Because that must have been such an incredible experience.

And just what was that like?

Kim Alexis:  It was an amazing day.

So we filmed in one day the parts that I was in and I’m standing backstage for part of it.

And I kept hearing supermodel, Kim Alexis, supermodel, Kim Alexis, and all these casting, the

people from the cast in the show that I’d watched on TV for years kept saying my name.

So I was just blown away. Like, wow, this is crazy.

It was just and crazy mind-blowing. I don’t know how I got that part, I have no idea but how

Bridgett: Incredible.

I mean it is something, just the opportunities that came your way and it seems

like you know you’ve got some people that seek out that really want to be a model but this just

kind of came your way and how did that.

 Colleen: How did like the approach to you start?

Kim Alexis: What’s interesting to

me is that for many businesses you’ve got to put in hard work and it’s about the interview and it’s

about um you know your energy and how you work as a team and you didn’t have any of that with

modeling and I grew up very much performance based so fast time swimming, good grades with you know

school, being good and showing up for my parents and not getting in trouble. Those things were

important to me when I was in high school. Three weeks after graduating from high school,

I’m now turning 18. I’m in New York City two days after I turn 18. I can do what I want,

come home when I want, eat what I want. Work out if I wanted to or not.

I didn’t have coaches there. And so this whole thing of who am I? What are my boundaries?

What makes me happy? I really was always self-analyzing because I’d get in these weird situations.

I’m like, whoa, back up. You know, I don’t want to go that way. And I think that models really need

because you’re not part of a team. You’re by yourself. I traveled the world by myself,

even at 18. And so you don’t have teammates there. You don’t have like,

hey, this guy’s messing with me. You want to go take care of that? You don’t have that. So you’ve

got to take care of it yourself. It was just different.

Bridgett: it’s really scary when you think

about that. And I saw, I know you had Carol Alt on recently. And I was,

I didn’t realize that you all weren’t all in the same place at the same time.

Kim Alexis:Oh, no. Every booking was one model and then one hairdresser,

one makeup artist, you know, maybe two people photography with an assistant. And then you’ve got an

art director or an editor of a magazine. And that’s about it. So you and a stylist.

So you had to you had the small group, but I didn’t travel with them. If it was over in

Japan or whatever it was, I’m traveling by myself. So it’s just different.

Colleen : Which is a crazy lifestyle. I can’t even imagine what you’ve been exposed to traveling around the

world by yourself at 18.

Kim Alexis: I loved reading books. So, you know, I would just sit and I would be in

these wonderful cities or countries. And instead of venturing out of my hotel because I was scared.

I would just sit in the room until the rest of the team showed up reading my book.

Bridgett: Yeah,

no, I completely understand that. Because when you don’t know an area, it is frightening,

especially if you’re by yourself. Like if you’ve got some people, that might be okay.

Kim Alexis: Right,

we didn’t have cell phones. It wasn’t like you could pin the hotel and like, oh, this is how I get

back. So if I’d wander too many streets, I’m like, oh. Right?

Bridgett: Yeah.

I used to rip the the stationary off the hotel stationary pad. I just carry it because it had

the address on it. If I got in a taxi, it’s like, here, here it is.

Kim Alexis: They don’t speak your language either

sometimes. So that’s true.

Colleen: That’s true. And then you did, you were part of the HBO documentary too.

I think it was last year. Was it About face?

Kim Alexis: That was a while back. That was probably in 2014.

Colleen:Oh, wow. Really? I have no sense of time.

Bridgett: I remember watching that,

too. You know, and that was very eye opening to watch that. And I didn’t realize some of the models who had passed away.

Like I didn’t realize they passed away until I watched that documentary. And I thought, oh,

you know, it really was eye opening. And you think that you’re watching.

this, these people, they must have this wonderful, glamorous life. But it’s really hard.

It’s very hard work. Yeah.

Kim Alexis:And it was unfortunate that we lost, you know,

a couple and some were from bad choices and yeah, style. So yeah,

and I just realized that I have probably overtime guardian angels.

Colleen:  Yeah, you talk a lot about aging is a mindset. And can you talk,

can you explore that a little bit with us and why you think that your mindset is so important as we

start to age?

Kim Alexis: Well, I think it’s important that you’re social and that you stay physical and that

you work your brain and that you check your emotions and that you have a spirituality.

Those things are important. If you’re not curious and if you’re not young at heart,

like, oh, well, those are new people and I don’t know them, but why don’t I go over and say hello?

Or, oh, that’s a new class. I’ve never done that before, but I’m going to try it just because it

seems like it might be a good fit. So that young at heart to me is that willingness to step out and

try new things. And that’s what we talked about. that curiosity and that love of life shows up.

And I think that that keeps us young at heart when, and we also have to have a positive stuff going

on in our heads versus, oh my gosh, I’m just, I’m achy all the time. And there’s just a,

there’s a difference. There’s a different energy. So I try to focus and find positive and

everything and be grateful. And that’s how I choose to stay peaceful and peaceful is important as

we talked about.

Bridgett: Right. And, you know, I also, I was listening to one of your podcasts and you were

talking about your advice to people, maybe in modeling or starting out in modeling. And I think you

said something about don’t ever be so desperate that modeling is your last resort.

And why, why do you share that with them?

Kim Alexis: Because you’re going to be put in situations where people

are willing to take advantage of you. I’ve been in rooms where it was just a test to see if,

you know, I could get a new photo or whatever it was. And then photographers start doing things and

I’m like, no, and walk out. And so there were these weird times where people and there’s this.

energy that comes around when you’re like this confused and you’re, you don’t know and versus I’m

here and I, I believe in myself and you know, I’m not going to take that and have these healthy

boundaries. Guys can sniff that out and respect that. So if you’re desperate and you’re like,

oh my gosh, if I don’t get this job, I’m not going to eat. And I feel bad for people that are like

that, but you still have to rise above because choosing that wrong thing and going down that path

is damaging in the long run.

Bridgett: Right. Yeah. And that’s got to be so scary for people that they if

they think it’s all or nothing. But I think that’s great advice, you know, to give someone.

Kim Alexis: Yeah. Again, like these modeling, I kind of didn’t finish it, but it’s not about your showing up at

work. It’s not about being a hard worker. Something is just it’s it’s all this exterior,

but it’s also how do you handle yourself? How do you handle your finances?

 It’s not like a lawyer who makes his job by a certain consistency.

So you’re given an opportunity, but it’s not for everybody. And you can be the most beautiful woman

in the world or the most handsome man in the world, but modeling is not your thing. It’s something

else.

Colleen: How does the world of social media now play into modeling?

Like it would seem to me that it’s such a different world because a lot of times influencers are

becoming models and actors.

Kim Alexis: And also the children of stars.

So you’re movie stars. So there’s a lot of nepotism going on.

And so it’s not fair in my mind. It’s not fair to a lot of people.

And it is all about numbers and being able to get followers and friends and likes and clicks and

downloads and all those things are how we measure success, which is a sad way of doing it.

So the business has changed. it went from beautiful artwork with every professional staying in

their lane to people doing half-baked things and not professional and that that’s okay

that they get away with it so the business has definitely changed. Now there are amazing models that

are doing well and you know deserve it but we paved the way for them to get their millions of

dollars. You know, we didn’t have that just like your athletes back in the seventies who were

getting, you know, maybe 50,000 or a hundred thousand dollars a year. Now these guys are getting

per quarter.

Bridgett: Right. Right. Just, you know, their contracts and everything that it’s,

it’s a whole different world. And then we’ve got the female athletes like Billie Jean King that we

need to thank for the payment. Yes, paving the way,

trying to get some kind of equality in payment, which still isn’t there yet. But that’s a different

podcast.

Colleen: And I think, you know, we had a really great discussion with Mariel Hemingway, and she talked about

going through a period of time where she was trying externally to figure out

her happiness, her wellness her path, so she would see this doctor, she would see this nutritionist.

She would, you know she went to the Dalai Lama she would and it was only through doing that for a

couple years that she realized the voice inside of her that she is her best advocate. She

understands as we get older, what’s right for us and it seems like you’ve kind of had that path, you

listen to your own body. What are some suggestions post-60 that you would say to women,

make sure to do this, make sure to avoid that?

Kim Alexis:That’s a good  Question.

 I believe food choices and what you stock your pantry with

are very important. I believe that what the people you surround yourself with are healthy and going

in the same direction you want to go. Not to say you can’t be friends with someone who’s got a

totally different profession, but it’s more the intent and the energy and the give back and the

love that they have for others and the gratitude. Moving every day. I really feel it’s important.

We’ve just got to keep the rust out of the joints and keep moving every day. And that’s super

important. I’m a big believer in detoxing. And so as I’ve gotten older,

We have been a collection of all these different toxins over the years. And if we don’t expel them

by sweating and doing certain detoxes, you’re just going to get more achy and more disease and go

off in the wrong direction. So I’m a big believer in detox. So just came from a  clay bath

about an hour ago.

Two infrared saunas in our, our garage and it is Phoenix in the summer. So it’s nice and warm out

there, but Jeff has his and I have mine. And so infrared sauna is also a good way to,

to detox. So there’s just different things that you can do. So moving is good.

Detoxing is good. And then what you pour back into your body has got to be good and clean. And what

you get your skin care. Yes. your cleaning products, your laundry detergent.

Laundry detergent touches our skin, whether we’re sleeping at night on our sheets or whether we’re

wearing our clothes. So it’s very important that we’re trying to eliminate as many extra toxins as

possible.

Bridgett: Right. I mean, you know, those are things that we just didn’t think about when we were

younger. And after doing the podcast we’ve had, when you talk about detox, we’ve had the author

Bill Gifford of Hot Wired, about saunas and sweating and then Detoxify

Colleen: yeah Dr. Cohen

Bridgett:yes Aly

Cohen and it’s like it didn’t occur to me but when you think about that like you said it

touches your skin and all the pores are absorbing everything and you think oh my goodness all these

chemicals and all of these things that have been happening

Kim Alexis: and air fresheners and yeah I’m

constantly pulling those things out.

Bridgett:  Yeah. Yeah. And you know, like now it’s like back in the

eighties and the seventies, I would think, oh, that smells so good. And then I’m like, oh, I don’t

want anything to smell. I don’t want to smell like nothing.

Kim Alexis: The dryer sheets and the openers and

those commercials where they’re like, oh, it’s a nice smell for 12 hours. That’s not natural.

Bridgett: No, I’ll take my dryer balls. I’ll put my little wool dryer balls in the dryer.

Kim Alexis: Anything to protect or anything we can do. Just checking off a list of things that we can do.

We can’t do everything. Our body’s going to age, but if we can help the process, I think.

All for it.

Colleen: And, you know, you have created such a great social media platform. If our listeners

are not following you on Instagram, they should. And your YouTube channel, because you really

offer, and even your website, you have great blogs on there about healthy eating and really sharing

your information with everyone. And we just want to thank you so much for coming on this show today

and sharing it with us.

Kim Alexis:  Well, hopefully I keep people inspired and out there moving and

detoxing.

Colleen: absolutely and we will have a link to everything in our show notes so thank you so much

for coming on we appreciate it.

 Kim Alexis: thank you